2018 NFL Combine day 4 workouts – Defensive Backs

HawkTalk’s live coverage of the 2018 NFL Combine day 4 workouts. Which CB’s and Safeties will put themselves firmly on Seattle’s radar?

The last day of the 2018 NFL Combine has arrived, and we’re covering all facets of the DB workouts here on HawkTalk. Denzel Ward, Minkah Fitzpatrick, and HawkTalk favorite Derwin James should all show why they head-up the 2018 DB class. Moreover, watch for Ward and Donte Jackson to put some heat on John Ross’ 4.22 record in the 40 set last year.

Don’t forget to refresh for live updates throughout the day, as I’ll add results and thoughts while pinpointing potential Seahawks draft targets. Additionally, here’s the link to Mike Loyko’s comprehensive Combine measurements & athletic testing spreadsheet. It’s a great resource which he updates live as the numbers pour in >>>

2018 NFL Combine Data and Results

And ICYMI – here are the links to HawkTalk’s Combine coverage & analysis over the first three days of on-field workouts >>>

There is a lot of great info in there, including top prospects likely to be targeted by the Seahawks. We’ll identify the DB prospects that fit the bill today, as Seattle could be in the market for both CB & Safety this April.

For up-to-date rankings and a preview of the 2018 DB class, check out HawkTalk’s recent posts at each position >>>

Scroll down beneath the Seahawks notes and today’s preview below for live results & updates of the 2018 NFL Combine day 4 workouts. Without further ado, let’s get right into it!

Seahawks discussing Michael Bennett trade with Falcons

We’ve written extensively about the Michael Bennett / Earl Thomas trade speculation over the last few days. Now we’re finally starting to get some specific rumors instead of the general noise. ESPN’s Vaughn McClure reported last night that Atlanta is engaging Seattle in trade talks for Bennett >>>

The Atlanta Falcons are one of multiple teams talking to the Seattle Seahawks about a trade for defensive lineman Michael Bennett, sources told ESPN on Sunday night. Nothing is imminent, one of the sources said.

Atlanta makes clear sense as a potential destination for Bennett, given that former Seahawks DC Dan Quinn coaches the Falcons. Additionally, Falcons DC Marquand Manuel was formerly a defensive assistant for the Hawks, and “has close ties to Bennett as well.”

The Bennett situation is a little strange, as it doesn’t make much sense to move him from a cap or competitive standpoint. There has to be more that meets the eye here, either from a locker room or off-field perspective. We broke down the details and factors affecting Bennett’ status in our Friday Combine coverage.

2018 NFL Combine day 4 – Cornerbacks to watch

Pete Carroll and John Schneider have drafted the following CB’s for Seattle >>>

  • Shaquill Griffin– 3rd round, 32 ½” arms
  • Walter Thurmond III– 4th round, 33” arms
  • Richard Sherman– 5th round, 32” arms
  • Tharold Simon– 5th round, 33” arms
  • Tye Smith– 5th round, 32” arms
  • Byron Maxwell– 6th round, 33 ½” arms
  • Jeremy Lane– 6th round, 32” arms
  • Michael Tyson– 6th round, 32” arms

All of them have 32+ inch arms, and all but Thurmond were at least 6’0” entering the NFL. Here’s a list of all the Combine CB’s to hit those thresholds, as well as HT’s top-3 2018 CB’s >>>

  • Josh Jackson– Height: 6-0 3/8 – Weight: 196 – Arm: 31 1/8
  • Denzel Ward– Height: 5-10 7/8 – Weight: 183 – Arm: 31 2/8
  • Jaire Alexander– Height: 5-10 2/8 – Weight: 196 – Arm: 31 1/8
  • Isaiah Oliver– Height: 6-0 2/8 – Weight: 201 – Arm: 33 4/8
  • Carlton Davis– Height: 6-1 – Weight: 206 – Arm: 32 6/8
  • Isaac Yiadom– Height: 6-0 7/8 – Weight: 190 – Arm: 32 2/8
  • Holton Hill– Height: 6-1 5/8 – Weight: 196 – Arm: 32
  • Tarvarus McFadden– Height: 6-2 2/8 – Weight: 204 – Arm: 32 4/8
  • Quenton Meeks– Height: 6-1 – Weight: 209 – Arm: 31 6/8
  • Levi Wallace– Height: 6-0 2/8 – Weight: 179 – Arm: 32 6/8
  • Chris Campbell– Height: 6-0 6/8 – Weight: 195 – Arm: 33 4/8
  • Brandon Facyson– Height: 6-1 4/8 – Weight: 203 – Arm: 32 5/8
  • Chris Jones– Height: 5-11 7/8 – Weight: 200 – Arm: 32 6/8
  • JT Thomas– Height: 6-0 1/8 – Weight: 187 – Arm: 32
  • Jamarcus KingHeight: 6-0 6/8 – Weight: 185 – Arm: 32 7/8

Keep in mind that not any tall/long CB will do. The Seahawks have shown a clear preference for explosiveness at Corner, so make note of the CB’s who jump well over 10-feet in the broad, and at least 36″ in the vertical. Additionally, all the Seahawks draft picks and key UDFA CB’s ran sub-4.60 40’s in the pre-draft process.

– We covered Joshua Jackson in depth for HawkTalk’s Seahawks mocks series, since he’s a popular mock draft choice for Seattle. I never bought it, and his 31 1/8″ arms should completely end that conversation…

Denzel Ward and Jaire Alexander aren’t Seahawks targets with their lack of size, but they are special CB prospects. Especially Ward, who measured taller but lighter than expected. He’s going to blaze in the 40-yard dash on Monday. Alexander came in heavier than anticipated, so it will be interesting to see if he can still run in the 4.3’s…

Donte Jackson isn’t on the Seahawks radar either at 5’10, 178 lbs & 29.5” arms. However, he should be fun to watch today. He possesses effortless athleticism, and is probably the greatest threat to John Ross’ 4.22 record in the 40…

– If Seattle were to buck the trend and draft a CB in the first two rounds, the names to know are Carlton Davis and Isaiah Oliver. They’re tall, athletic and extremely long, while offering either a high floor (Davis) or ceiling (Oliver) at CB…

Isaac Yiadom is a CB we covered extensively both during and following Senior Bowl week. In fact, his performance was so impressive that I mocked him to Seattle in the 5th round of our Seahawks Senior Bowl mock draft. His size, length, speed, athleticism, physicality and skills all scream “Seahawks cornerback.” Yiadom should run a fast 40, though I’m more interested in his jumps and agility testing at the combine. He’s currently underrated by his mid-round stock, and he’s perhaps the top CB target for Seattle in this draft…

Holton Hill has 2nd-round tape (maybe even 1st), but has some well-documented character concerns. He measured very well in Indy, and could help to redeem his draft stock with strong test results on today…

Christian Campbell and Brandon Facyson stand out to me as potential targets in the late rounds of the draft. They’re certainly not the most spectacular prospects, lacking fluidity in their movements and possessing unrefined skill-sets. However, they’ve both got great size and some athletic traits to work with. The Seahawks like to find tools-y CB’s they can mold in the late rounds or undrafted free agency…

– File this one away for the near-future: Arrion Springs is arguably the top Combine snub this year. The Oregon CB isn’t elite in any area, yet all he does it check boxes. He has average or better size, speed, athleticism and coverage skills. All of which helped him tie with Jackson for 3rd in the country with 18 pass break-ups this year. He’s a 3rd-rounder on my board as of now.

2018 NFL Combine day 4 – Safeties to watch

– Strong safety is a priority need for Seattle heading into free agency, and you can add FS to that if they trade Earl Thomas. I like Delano Hill and (to a lesser extent) Tedric Thompson to compete at those respective spots if the vets aren’t available. However, the Seahawks can’t afford to go into training camp with them as the unchallenged starters. We identified several early draft targets worthy of consideration in HT’s 2018 Safety class preview. With that said, here are some noteworthy prospects to watch today >>>

– Hide the women and children – Derwin James is taking the field today. While he measured slightly smaller than expected, he’s still the most physically impressive DB at the Combine. James is outstanding; the best Safety prospect since Eric Berry, or perhaps (gulp) Sean Taylor. He is underrated in the media right now, despite receiving early top-10 hype and then playing dominant football this season. National draft analysts Mel Kiper, Lance Zierlein and Bucky Brooks all mocked James to Seattle at the 18th pick. The popular Seahawks/James mock draft connection prompted me to write a detailed post on him in January:

Seahawks mocks: Elite FSU safety Derwin James

I don’t envision many circumstances where the Seahawks stay put at the 18th pick in the draft. But James being available is the dream scenario. I don’t say this lightly – James could become a better NFL player than Kam Chancellor. While powerful, James isn’t same thumper as Kam (who is?). However, he is a smart kid, a leader, and everything you could feasibly want in a strong safety. He’s a game-changing talent, and perhaps the best defensive prospect in this entire draft class. If his medicals check out, he’s a top-10 pick…

Justin Reid, DeShon Elliott and Jessie Bates all stand out to me as potential replacements for Earl. Reid is a poor-man’s Minkah Fitzpatrick, excelling in the slot and at both Safety positions. He’s versatile, athletic, smart, and (interestingly) could be paired with his brother SS Eric Reid in free agency. Elliott is also interchangeable at both Safety spots, but might project best at SS in Seattle upon further thought. Watch for both to climb up the consensus ranks into the 2nd/3rd round throughout the draft process. Either is capable of making an early impact, as Delano would have last year if he had the opportunity…

– In contrast, Bates may be more of a project. He’s a purer FS who’s rangy, fluid and instinctual, but he’s raw and a wildly inconsistent tackler. It goes without saying that each of these FS prospects would be substantial downgrades from Earl. Additionally, no 2018 Safeties in Seattle’s projected draft range grade higher for me than Delano did last year (R2)…

Ronnie Harrison has a terrific frame, but I feel he’s a bit overrated at this point. Kyzir White stood out at the Senior Bowl, and he’s a name to monitor for Seattle at 6’2, 218 lbs…

– Want a Free Safety with some similarities to Earl Thomas? Look no further than Natrell Jamerson and (egregious) Combine-snub Jeremy Reaves. It goes without saying they are both much poorer-man’s versions, however they’re underrated by top media evaluators right now. Jamerson had a big year for Wisconsin, and posted some interesting initial results at the Combine. He’s under 5’11, but he’s solidly built at 201 lbs and has 32 5/8” arms. What’s more, he posted a ridiculous 25 reps on the bench with those vines-for-arms (which leads all DB’s). I haven’t checked out his tape in depth yet, so I’m looking forward to his workout today…

2018 NFL Combine day 4 – CB results

* 6+ foot, 32+ inch arm CB’s in bold. The 3-cone times are historically fast, almost unrealistically so >>>

CB 40 Bench Vertical Broad 3-Cone Shuttle
Alexander, Jaire 4.38 14 35″ 10’7″ 6.71 3.98
Averett, Anthony 4.36 13 31.5″ 9’11” 6.93 4.40
Brown, Tony 4.35 14 31.5″ 10’6″ 6.78 4.41
Campbell, Chris   14        
Chachere, Andre 4.49 13 38″ 10’3″ 6.78 4.07
Davis, Carlton 4.53 16 34″ 10’4″    
Dawson, Duke 4.46 15        
Delaney, Dee 4.46 13 32.5″ 10’0″ 6.95 4.25
Facyson, Brandon 4.53 16        
Fant, Rashard            
Gaulden, Rashaan 4.61 8 30″ 9’11” 7.16 4.33
Haley, Grant 4.44 15 34″ 9’11” 6.51 3.94
Harris, Davontae 4.43 22 32.5″ 10’3″ 6.96 4.40
Hill, Holton 4.49 14 31″ 10’0″ 6.83 4.15
Hughes, Mike 4.53 20 35.5″ 10’7″ 6.70 4.13
Jackson, Donte 4.32 7   10’4″    
Jackson, J.C. 4.46 14 35.5″ 10’0″    
Jackson, Joshua 4.56 18 38″ 10’3″ 6.86 4.03
Johnson, Danny 4.44 15 35″ 10’3″    
Johnson, Taron 4.50 17 33″ 9’10” 7.03 4.28
Jones, Chris 4.57 14        
Joseph, Michael   17 34″   6.89 4.20
King, Jamarcus 4.70          
Maddox, Avonte 4.39 13 37″ 10’5″ 6.51 4.00
McFadden, Tarvarus 4.67   38.5″ 10’1″    
Meeks, Quenton   11 39″ 10’8″ 6.72 4.23
Moore, Kamren            
Nelson, Nick 4.52 17   10’3″    
Nickerson, Perry 4.32 15        
Oliver, Isaiah 4.50          
Phillips, Darius 4.54          
Reed, D.J. 4.51 11 36.5″      
Stewart, M.J. 4.54 18 35″ 9’10” 6.90 4.28
Stroman, Greg 4.48 16 33.5″ 9’5″   4.45
Sullivan, Chandon 4.60 15 40.5″ 11’2″   4.36
Thomas, Jordan 4.64 4 38″ 10’4″ 6.28 3.94
Toliver, Henré 4.63 6 32.5″ 9’9″ 7.01 4.15
Toliver, Kevin   10 33″ 10’0″    
Wade, D’Montre 4.57 15 35.5″ 10’0″   4.40
Wallace, Levi 4.63   33″      
Ward, Denzel 4.32 16 39″ 11’4″    
Yiadom, Isaac 4.52 8   10’0″   4.18

2018 NFL Combine day 4 – Safety results

Safety 40 Bench Vertical Broad 3-Cone Shuttle
Allen, Marcus   15 37″ 10’7″   4.32
Apke, Troy 4.34 16 41″ 10’11” 6.56 4.03
Bates, Jessie 4.50   35.5″ 9’9″ 6.78 4.26
Blanding, Quin 4.63   31.5″ 10’2″    
Chandler, Sean 4.65 16 34.5″ 9’11”   4.62
Cruikshank, Dane 4.41 25 38.5″ 10’1″ 6.89 4.24
Edmunds, Terrell 4.47   41.5″ 11’2″    
Elliott, Deshon 4.58 15 36″ 10’1″    
Fitzpatrick, Minkah 4.46 14 33″ 10’1″    
Flowers, Tre 4.45 18 34.5″ 10’2′    
Harris, Marcell   16        
Harrison, Ronnie     34″ 10’0″    
Igwebuike, Godwin 4.44 19 35.5″ 10’8″ 6.56 4.12
Jamerson, Natrell 4.40 25 35.5″ 10’0″    
James, Derwin 4.47 21 40″ 11’0″    
Kalu, Joshua 4.58 17 41.5″ 11’2″    
Kelly, Kameron 4.66 9 33″ 10’0″ 6.94 4.28
Neal, Siran 4.56 17 40.5″ 10’2″ 7.00 4.28
Redfield, Max 4.69 15        
Reid, Justin 4.40 16 36.5″ 10’8″ 6.65 4.15
Roberts, Stephen 4.53   34″ 10’1″    
Sanders, Dominick   14        
Smith, Van 4.61   29.5″      
Walker, Trey 4.51 14 33″ 9’11” 7.00 4.28
Watts, Armani   13 35″ 10’0″ 7.25 4.37
Webb, Damon 4.62 17        
White, Kyzir   21 35.5″ 9’5″    
Whitehead, Jordan   21        

4 Responses

  1. OE45 says:

    Not watching today, have to much going on. Do you happen to know what is keeping Campbell from running. Physicality wise him and Facyson are about exactly what we look for.

    • James Thomas says:

      Haven’t heard anything specific. He missed the Senior Bowl game with injury, and it may be lingering.

      I like him a bit as a late round guy, and he certainly fits the profile.

      • OE45 says:

        My feeling on both guys too. Davis is right behind them in that facet, and having a nice combine so far. Wish Hill were more consistent, a lot to like there.

        • James Thomas says:

          I really like both Davis and Hill. R1-2 talents for me, though Hill has some serious character concerns.

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